Stranger Things Season 5, Conformity Gate or no?

You know that time when you liked your best-friend so much that you basically become his girlfriend, not in the sense that you two start dating, no you just gain the same supernatural powers she has.

That's what happened to Will, And after the whole thing the Stranger Thing's Social Media went on where they pointed out every similarity between Will and Vecna, it was quite Obvious that at a certain point Will was going to get powers.

But they went about it in a very creative way where he doesn't just get the powers that they have, it's a bit more complicated than that.

Will was jacked into the Hive Mind when he was kidnapped as a kid and now that he has grown up, he never fully separated from the Mind Flayer Hive, so whenever he is close, he gets a full Harry Potter pain in his neck and starts convulsing, unknown to Vecna he is also able to see where he is and where his creatures are going.

He gets visions like Harry does, and just like that he is one of the attackers, and just like that he is able to access Vecna's abilities.

When Will is close to the Hive mind, he can attack any one from the Hive using Vecna's Psychic Powers.

So it would seem for once the Demos got a taste of the hive Mind's own medicine.

Now some people criticized the fact that will could see what the Demos could see even though they don't have eyes...

And I am like...

Are you broken in the head???

Did Will get you while he was cracking the Demogorgon's Skulls?

Like the Demos track and chase their prey, they can "see" the Same way Daredevil can.

Well not the exact same way but they can see.

You know shit like this makes me think that once the internet has decided something is hateworthy every thing is game.

The over presence of grifters certainly doesn't help, people who are just sitting on the corner to peddle their ideology and waiting for some random pop culture slip up that's vaguely related so their poison can surface to the top.

Fortunately Season 5 gave me the perfect response to this kind of behavior.

Thanks Delightful Derek.

Somehow once again I ended up liking this kid way more than I thought I would just like it happened with Jonathan, which like, are we ever going to get to know why the man was shooting Nancy Steve and the gang jumping in the pool with their clothes on.

Idk, what happens to those two btw? Do they break up and stay friends? Do they not break up... I... Wtf man I tried to tell myself I will try to keep this positive in the beginning itself.

But here we are again.

Robin and Vickie broke up.

When did that happen in the fucking two hours and five minutes of the season Finale which had to just bring into existence an entirely new dimension which is apparently the real home dimension of the Demos and yet had none of them, but definitely did have a physical manifestation of the Mind-flayer who until this point was a fucking cloud but who knows.

Any ways When did Robin and Vickie break up?

They broke up here.

Well maybe not this specific interview, Idk I haven't seen it, but the Duffers did imply in some commentary somewhere that the only gay couple on this show broke up because "overbearing partners" apparently.

Yes, that's the entire resolution to those two, the only Same sex couple in this show is Robin saying "overbearing partners".

What happened to Will?

Oh apparently Mike wrote him a story where he goes on and gets his love and happy ending.

Just like he fantasized about Eleven still being somehow alive still in some faraway place, because reasons...

I mean who the fuck thought of this?

Yeah I mean sure, what Kali said made sense.

They will never stop coming, they will always keep hunting for people like them, wanting to make more numbers, opening more rifts to Dimension X or the Abyss.

Which no one seems to agree on are the same thing or not, but TL;DR there was a Play that for some reason us Indian fans don't get to see, which explained some of Vecna's backstory and showed that the Mindflayer was nesting inside him since Childhood and that it is from "Dimension X"

This season also has an alternative dimension that the guys call "the Abyss" after DnD, but no one seems to be able to tell me definitively if these two are one and the same.

The Duffers certainly seem confused.

But speaking of that, apparently Vecna's origin in the cave was also changed, the thing in the suitcase wasn't always a mysterious rock, it was some military tech at some point.

But the thing remains, Vecna was a victim, but at the same time he is too far gone to be saved.

But the thing about the Upside down being just a gateway to the true alternate Dimension is neither here nor there.

For one, it explains why Everything in the Upside down resembles the Hawkins we know, it's just space trying to make sense of stuff, in a way...

And the way that it was revealed is pretty awesome too.

Everyone thought that the Exotic matter keeping the gate open was a shield generator like in Star wars, only to at the last moment realize that they had it all wrong.

And without that we also wouldn't have all the scenes of Dustin and Steve realizing their true worth to each other either, problem is we also get bullshit like Nancy and Jonathan being trapped in the room and talking their stuff out, because if everything is melting, why aren't they?

And why did it stop precisely when they were done?

This whole thing was bullshit wasn't it?

But apart from all that the fact that this explains so much of the upside down is the problem.

The upside Down was the perfect alternate dimension, its mysterious, its dark, its a twisted version of reality and then there is Dimension X...

That's just generic.

And like if the Flayer and the Demos are actually from there, where the fuck are they?

They just went on a Holiday I guess, Cause Like fuck the Mindflayer I guess, Which you know, Hell yeah, stand up to authoritarianism.

But that brings me back to what Kali said, for someone who was all punk rock and fuck the system, it is a pretty big leap to say: Yeah ykw, we need to off ourselves.

But what other way did they have to wrap this up that wouldn't take like two other seasons at least?

Because the Military isn't gonna stop coming.

They want the next Henry... to kill the commies...

And there in lies the problem, introducing a whole new dimension and showing the "true" form of the Flayer and Will's powers and the reason the Kids are being stolen, it's all a bit much to wrap up just now.

So they just have a quick rush of moments one after the other, not leaving any breathing room and often messing up.

Speaking of Messing up.... Will should come out, because he needs to face his fear of being rejected for his sexuality, but like....

WHAT THE FUCK IS MURRAY DOING THERE???

Look man, you guys were doing so well with Robin and Vickie, and the slow hints to Will's true feelings for Mike, and then they had to do a... this whatever stunted thing is...

Once someone critiquing Spider-Man 2 (The PS5 Game not the 2004 movie.) told this about the dialogue: "They feel like their employers are watching" That is what this scene feels like, their employers made this scene.

Someone made a scene with AI stating what if Will came out in the actual eighties, Will calls himself a Gay Homosexual, and then Eleven shot him after asking him how is this relevant right now.

And someone commented: "As a Gay Homosexual, I think this is canon" or some paraphrasing of that.

And I second that.

Look Will should have just come out to Mike, Joyce, Jonathan and maybe Hopper, given he's the mom boyfiee.

And at that point John and Joyce should have just said they knew already and Mike would have a slight realization.

But then again we would still have this Chat GPT dialogue.

Yes, the kids are growing up, but ykw, we can still have them grow up and keep the story going, yes, the themes of childhood imagination is what got the show going, but childhood imagination doesn't need to die when you grow up.

Yes, you need to do grown up stuff now, but there are definitely people who keep it alive, and they are some of the most successful people I have met.

The Duffers said Eleven needed to die because she was a symbol of childhood imagination and the boys needed to move on, which like, wtf?

Why did you make her her own character then?

I feel so stupid now having theorized so much about what the Upside down could have been and all that, and now here we are.

And you could still have saved it!

Just have it go a little longer...

But no sir, that can't happen can it?

This thing was so bad fans theorized there is an entire special secret ending, and this one is a hallucination by Vecna.

Conformity Gate.

But really just like the Secret Ending of Sherlock, this turned out to be the fans desperately hoping that their favorite show runners didn't fuck up, now in the case of Sherlock it was Moffat playing out of his comfort zone, or rather should I say in his comfort zone but out of his skill-zone.

It is completely possible for a writer's skill to evolve, but for that one needs to see their flaws and that needs exiting the comfort zone.

But here... I don't think that's the case.

You see all these couples breaking up, this talk of moving on, it reeks, reeks of a man who believed in the wonder of life but something happened to shatter that bubble into pieces.

And that is why, I am a strong believer in Divorce Gate.

Ross Duffer lost his wife and he wanted to inject that "lesson" into the show.

Also, there is the topic of the fear street movies, which after watching it, I do believe is quite closer to the first four seasons of Stranger Things than season 5.

Was... Was she ghost writing the seasons?

Is this another Watson and Crick v/s Rosalind Franklin situation? Except Rosalind is married to Watson apparently.

No I don't think its that far, it's likely a majority of the work was still done by the brothers, even if this conspiracy theory is true.

And that's what this is, a conspiracy theory lets call it what it is.

But you know, it's like the Divorce obviously affected the show right?

On the plus side at least the new kids played their parts well, I mean they really were giving it their all.

Well, Now that I have mentioned this, I think I should take this moment to praise the part of the show that I actually liked.

The entire plotline about max and the kids and Camazotz is peak cinema.

There should have been more of this, and the reason is, the Flayer, Vecna, Camazotz, all of them present one thing: the dangerous side of Childhood imagination, and how certain bad actors use it to their own twisted ends.

That's why Henry trying to gain the kids trust is so poignant.

This whole thing gave me serious pied pipier of Hamlin vibes.

And yet again, this idea of numbers having their own psychological worlds made of their memories... it simply wasn't explored enough.

The conformity Gate theorists may have been wrong, but one thing they were right about, we need at least one more episode.

And if they listen to sense, two more seasons.

I guess we gotta wait for the spin off huh.